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Posted: 2019-01-09 13:50:06

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AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, The War and Peace Report. I’m Amy Goodman, with Juan González. We’re talking with Bill Arkin, longtime NBC reporter and analyst, leaving NBC after many years, wrote a letter that’s been called the perpetual war letter, critiquing the network, his own and the others, for encouraging, quote, “the Trump circus.” His award-winning reporting has appeared in major newspapers around the country, from The New York Times to The Washington Post, author, among other books, Top Secret America: The Rise of the New American Security State. I’m Amy Goodman, with Juan González. Juan?

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Bill, I wanted to ask you about another mention in your letter, where you say, “As perpetual war has become accepted as a given in our lives, I’m proud to say that I’ve never deviated in my argument at NBC (or at my newspaper gigs) that terrorists will never be defeated until we better understand why they are driven to fighting. And I have maintained my central view that airpower (in its broadest sense including space and cyber) is not just the future but the enabler and the tool of war today.” On both of those issues, the question of understanding what drives the terrorists and also this whole issue of airpower and the particular perspective that you have on it?

WILLIAM ARKIN: Well, OK, so we have a way of war. And there’s an American way of war. There’s a Russian way of war. There’s an old-fashioned way of war. And when the United States engages in warfare in the Middle East and parts of Africa, as it does today, it does so in a certain way. Yes, it’s true that there are special operations commandos on the ground, and they in fact get down into the dirt and into the mud with the people that we’re fighting. But, by and large, the American military is highly technical, information-dominant, dominated by aircraft, drones, space, cyber, etc. It’s not necessarily the tool that

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